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Post by FIUFanatic on Nov 9, 2006 8:38:37 GMT -5
Thanks for the information, True Blue. Pretty interesting and could mean a lot to the future of the university, especially in terms of creating more of a college town feel around the campus. Thanks again, and please keep the information rolling....
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Post by FIUFan on Nov 9, 2006 10:20:23 GMT -5
Looks like they are heading up the 'eminent domain' path. Since the gov't will likely not build all this new infrastructure, but outsource it, these improvements may be considered as private investment. These law suits may drag out a college town type of environment for many years. I hope it succeeds, but I have my doubts.
I also found it interesting that the Mayor, et. al., say that the Metroline will not be going down 107th. Since you can not build with out their approval, it is now time to start to determine where, on the West side of campus, this Metrorail station is going to be.
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Post by TrueBlue on Nov 9, 2006 10:35:48 GMT -5
Looks like they are heading up the 'eminent domain' path. Since the gov't will likely not build all this new infrastructure, but outsource it, these improvements may be considered as private investment. These law suits may drag out a college town type of environment for many years. I hope it succeeds, but I have my doubts. I also found it interesting that the Mayor, et. al., say that the Metroline will not be going down 107th. Since you can not build with out their approval, it is now time to start to determine where, on the West side of campus, this Metrorail station is going to be. They're not using eminent domain. They are rezoning the area, which is a problem with Sweethingyer that almost the whole city is zoned for residences and next to nothing for business which is why the city hasn't made many advances financially. Also, this is something that apparently the Florida government requires - every city to look at their zoning and such every 6 years, and right now is Sweethingyer 6 years. The rezoning is something citizens will be able to vote on, and they will get paid for their land. Altho, the whooole project wouldn't be 100% complete for 20 years. They don't want to build everything too fast. |
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Post by Steve on Nov 9, 2006 11:52:59 GMT -5
The location for the station on the western edge of tha campus is already determined... It will be the Southwest corner off 117th avenue and Coral Way. The reason is to provide better access to the western edge of the county basically.
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Post by Mike on Nov 9, 2006 16:23:55 GMT -5
The location for the station on the western edge of tha campus is already determined... It will be the Southwest corner off 117th avenue and Coral Way. The reason is to provide better access to the western edge of the county basically. You are describing the location of the SW corner of Tamiami Park. I was hoping they would put a turnpike ramp at this corner. Will there still be room? It could be a limited access game day only ramp similar to those around Dolphin Stadium which would take up less room. |
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Post by Steve on Nov 9, 2006 22:32:49 GMT -5
There is still a pretty good chunk of space after construction of the station. If it does anything, it may increase the chances of putting an off ramp there since one of the big issues at that meeting was discussing how to make it more accessable to the turnpike.
Ultimately a lot of things in that area is dependant on what the Turnpike and FDOT decides to do as far as expanding the turnpike. There are plans for that to happen pretty soon, but they were unknown at the time of the meeting. Some of the points discussed to increase access to the campus included an off ramp, extension of SW 18th street (the one that currently ends on the west end of the turnpike and would head directly into the courthouse if the turnpike weren't there). Both have great potential.
Before someone else says it, the plan to extend SW 18th street would call for elevating the turnpike. This is not entirely a bad thing though, it would essentially put Coral Way at-grade and provide a chance to fix some of the drainage problems that are there now. Additionally, all the onramp space could be cut in half and an exit created that passes under the turnpike and into Tamiami Park.
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Post by neiching on Nov 10, 2006 13:42:03 GMT -5
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Post by neiching on Nov 14, 2006 0:19:46 GMT -5
Posted on Sun, Nov. 12, 2006 www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/local/states/florida/counties/miami-dade/cities_neighborhoods/kendall/15985158.htmSWEEthingyER Public wary of Sweethingyer as a college townFlorida International University conducted a workshop at which faculty presented ideas to residents on how to make the city a college town. BY JOSE CASSOLA jcassola@MiamiHerald.com Florida International University has a vision for the future of Sweethingyer. The Metropolitan Center at FIU and architecture faculty and students presented a comprehensive plan to city officials and residents Wednesday at the Jorge Mas Canosa Center on converting the small municipality into a college town. The idea has been over a year in the making. Last fall, Roberto Rovira, an assistant professor of architecture at FIU's south campus, held a landscape architecture studio in which students devoted an entire semester to researching Sweethingyer and suggesting ways to better integrate the city with the university. CONCENTRATED VIEWFIU's plan is to expand Sweethingyer's housing, public buildings and parks, as well as make changes to the city's land use and infrastructure and build a library and even a hotel in the neighborhood. Designers are concentrating on the quadrant that is framed by West Flagler and Southwest Eighth Street and 107th and 109th avenues. ''This is not intended to be an overnight project but a 20-year plan that can work with or without the Metrorail or any other mass transit options,'' Rovira said. Most residents at Wednesday's workshop opposed transforming the city, fearing that FIU's plans could displace homeowners and allow Miami-Dade Transit to build a rail down 107th Avenue, which runs through the heart of the city. OPPOSING THE TRAIN''This is just a sneaky, backhanded way of bringing the Metrorail into the city, which we don't want,'' Sweethingyer resident Miguel Melgar said. Transit officials have recently proposed expanding Metrorail to areas where mass transit is currently unavailable. They suggested building a Metrorail station near FIU's engineering school at the northeast corner of Southwest 107th Avenue and Flagler Street and another stop near the east entrance to the main campus around Southwest 12th Street. A transit alternative would position the train between Southwest 117th Avenue and Florida's Turnpike, near the National Hurricane Center and west of FIU and Tamiami Park. Either expansion could reach completion as early as 2015, connecting the campus and its neighborhood to Miami International Airport and other transport modes there. Mayor Manny Maroño and other officials assured concerned residents Wednesday that the commission won't allow any changes to their city if they are not in total agreement. ''We are not about to displace anyone,'' Commissioner Jose Bergouignan said. ``The idea with this plan from FIU is to make small enough improvements in the city that will not only beautify Sweethingyer, but also increase the tax revenue of the city to prevent tax increases to our residents.'' Sweethingyer resident George Tinsley, a professional landscaper, agrees something has to be done to improve the outlook of the city. ''The concepts presented here today may have drawbacks,'' Tinsley said. ``But there definitely needs to be a plan in place that will help boost the economic development of this city and make the area more welcoming to college students in the future.'' |
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Post by FIUGoldenPanther on Mar 11, 2007 22:33:22 GMT -5
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Post by Steve on Mar 12, 2007 0:54:23 GMT -5
There actually is stuff happening about the expansion of metrorail right now. The northern extension down 27th avenue to Dolphin Stadium and Calder Race Track is having discussions about joint development in the near future. Basically the station details are done as are the alingment and plannign meetings. Now its the stuff that goes along with the project that is under way. The estimate for completion is somewhere around 8 years away. Nothing new on the east-west corridor as it is undergoing the FDEIS process now. You can check out whats being planned at www.co.miami-dade.fl.us/mpo/LRTP-Visualization/TIP-Link/LRTPIntro/LRTPIntro.htm |
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Post by FIUFan on Mar 12, 2007 8:08:54 GMT -5
Some have said that there is no mass transit if the Marlins were to build a stadium at the OB site. Looks to me, according to the above map, there is a planned stop at the OB site. That's one more positive for the stadium there. Though I'm still for putting it at Bicentennial park. That underutilized area would be perfect for a baseball stadium. Why put another museum (that no one attends) there when 2 million plus would get to enjoy the area if a stadium was there.
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Post by Steve on Mar 12, 2007 9:12:39 GMT -5
That branch of the east-west corridor has been lowered to priority 2 or 3 in order to move the branch to FIU to Priority 1. There are several design problems with that side including the new courthouse downtown blocking where the line was planned. With that in mind, we are looking at roughly 20-30 years before we can even consider that extension being built. Take that into consideration with the rate that we go through stadiums in this county and the Orange Bowl site is not that great.
Bicentenial park is not an option at all any more becuase of the relocation of the Miami Art Museum and the Museum of Scienence. The county is striving to create a cultural center/district in downtown Miami. The Miami Art museum has over 1 million attendies and a full foundation that is backing the construction costs. When combined with Art Basil that comes down every winter, the are has potential to draw a very large number of people. the corrent museum has outgrown its current site and needs the Bicentenial park site baddly. The same goes for the Museum of Science.
As for the stadium, I agree that it needs to be put downtown. Personally, I wish they would dump the Miami Arena already and put it there.
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Post by kevin on Mar 18, 2007 15:22:22 GMT -5
www.miamidade.gov/transit/library/pdfs/corridor/ew/stations/FIU-2Rb.pdfHere is the rendering of what the FIU Station will look like. From what I read at the Miami-Dade Transit website, this is the final renderings as of now, and is what is getting the most amount of support. I think that this is what's best and much better than anything down 107th. With good lighting, sidewalks and trees, this could be a really great thing for FIU.
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Post by Steve on Mar 18, 2007 23:16:03 GMT -5
That is actually what was shown at the meeting held last June for the 117th avenue alignment. It was the preferred alternative at that meeting prior to any discussion about a 107th avenue alignment. That drawing is VERY preliminary and pre-FDEIS. Since the FDEIS hasn't been completed yet, we won't know what exactly the station will look like. That document should be completed and made public sometime in the next couple months.
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