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Post by Steve on Nov 2, 2006 17:52:36 GMT -5
The plan by the city of sweethingyer to create a transit corridor would create more affordable housing and would even add retail space to sweethingyer. The only metrorail alignment that allows for joint development is following the 117th avenue corridor.
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Post by Suprised on Nov 2, 2006 19:12:31 GMT -5
The current plan is to put the station on the Engineering campus. Do you have a link to this? The only place I recall reading taking FIU land was in one of your posts and you claimed it was your idea.
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Post by neiching on Nov 3, 2006 8:59:14 GMT -5
The plan by the city of sweethingyer to create a transit corridor would create more affordable housing and would even add retail space to sweethingyer. The only metrorail alignment that allows for joint development is following the 117th avenue corridor. Please explain how the 117th Avenue corridor would create opportunity for joint development for the City of Sweethingyer. You have the Turnpike on one side with the canal and residential properties on the other side. I don't see any opportunity there.
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Post by fiurulez on Nov 3, 2006 9:26:02 GMT -5
The plan by the city of sweethingyer to create a transit corridor would create more affordable housing and would even add retail space to sweethingyer. The only metrorail alignment that allows for joint development is following the 117th avenue corridor. Please explain how the 117th Avenue corridor would create opportunity for joint development for the City of Sweethingyer. You have the Turnpike on one side with the canal and residential properties on the other side. I don't see any opportunity there. I've wondered that myself. Sweethingyer is horrible.
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Post by Xpedition on Nov 3, 2006 10:44:38 GMT -5
This could be done if MD transit and the City of Sweethingyer team up along the 107th coridor to build a mixed use project. And you don't have to kick out the businesses and residents there to do it either. You build in phases and offer current businesses and residents to move in to the new project at a discount. Work with the current land/building owners to get it done.
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Post by neiching on Nov 3, 2006 10:59:48 GMT -5
Here's our opportunity to have a say in what Sweethingyer will be with a Metrorail.
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Post by TrueBlue on Nov 3, 2006 12:02:18 GMT -5
school of architecture eh? I think thats definitely going to have a little something to do with that college town they've been talking about, that was an SOA project.
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Post by Steve on Nov 3, 2006 12:50:58 GMT -5
The current plan is to put the station on the Engineering campus. Do you have a link to this? The only place I recall reading taking FIU land was in one of your posts and you claimed it was your idea. In the meeting that took place a couple weeks ago on FIU's campus they showed the footprints for the stations. Those should be made availible soon, or if you go to any of the planning meetings, they show them there. As of right now, they are not on the website. The plan called for the station to be in the western corner of the Engineering campus. The other station would be on FIU's main campus located right on top of where the current bus terminal is. This location would impede on Fraternity House construction and would also create two parking garages for transit on top of corrent student parking lots.
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Post by TrueBlue on Nov 3, 2006 13:01:41 GMT -5
Do you have a link to this? The only place I recall reading taking FIU land was in one of your posts and you claimed it was your idea. In the meeting that took place a couple weeks ago on FIU's campus they showed the footprints for the stations. Those should be made availible soon, or if you go to any of the planning meetings, they show them there. As of right now, they are not on the website. The plan called for the station to be in the western corner of the Engineering campus. The other station would be on FIU's main campus located right on top of where the current bus terminal is. This location would impede on Fraternity House construction and would also create two parking garages for transit on top of corrent student parking lots. I did see that plan on the MetroRail website, but when I saw it it was listed an alternative plan, not the current plan
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Post by Steve on Nov 3, 2006 13:01:49 GMT -5
The plan by the city of sweethingyer to create a transit corridor would create more affordable housing and would even add retail space to sweethingyer. The only metrorail alignment that allows for joint development is following the 117th avenue corridor. Please explain how the 117th Avenue corridor would create opportunity for joint development for the City of Sweethingyer. You have the Turnpike on one side with the canal and residential properties on the other side. I don't see any opportunity there. Basically, all development for the station would be in Tamiami Park. The parking structure would be located in the corner of the park where there is currently open park and the batting cages. Additionally, The remaining space between the dump and the courthouse would be utilized for joint development. This will not necessarilly be mixed-use projects that include communities and retail centers, but because of the size it could easily be mixed-use in the form of Offices (Such as in Kendall in the Datran buildings) and possibly residential units (especially with the close proximity of the Carlos Finlay Elementary). The idea is the station would be located next to the turnpike and pedestrian bridges would cross the canal. This can be seen on the project website.
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Post by Steve on Nov 3, 2006 13:06:34 GMT -5
I think that ultimately, the solution is to attend the meetings and see what they have planned and to talk to the engineers. Right now all the plans are considered "Alternate" plans. I am not completely opposed to sending Metrorail down 107th if it can be made in a manner that would benefit FIU, the city of sweethingyer, and the community as a whole. Unfortunately though, the more I look into the plan, I don't see any of those entities really benefitting from sending Metrorail down 107th. I could write a treatise on the many reasons why, but I have expressed many of those reasons on earlier posts in this thread.
I think though that the ultimate solution is to attend the meetings and find these things out for ourselves. I know that I have been to a couple of them. I have found them informative and they have really helped me develop my opinions. If the next one is on November 8th, then I am there!
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Post by FIUFan on Nov 6, 2006 9:00:04 GMT -5
I think that ultimately, the solution is to attend the meetings and see what they have planned and to talk to the engineers. Right now all the plans are considered "Alternate" plans. I am not completely opposed to sending Metrorail down 107th if it can be made in a manner that would benefit FIU, the city of sweethingyer, and the community as a whole. Unfortunately though, the more I look into the plan, I don't see any of those entities really benefiting from sending Metrorail down 107th. I could write a treatise on the many reasons why, but I have expressed many of those reasons on earlier posts in this thread. I think though that the ultimate solution is to attend the meetings and find these things out for ourselves. I know that I have been to a couple of them. I have found them informative and they have really helped me develop my opinions. If the next one is on November 8th, then I am there! Exactly Steve, until I hear something better, I'm for putting the station at the sw corner of Tamiami park, and those involved (FIU, county, FDOT, etc.) can come up with a way to make a Disney style tram from the station to the center of campus as convenient and efficient as possible. Out there Metrorail can go directly into Kendall along the turnpike with as little disruption as possible to the communities it will serve.
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Post by neiching on Nov 6, 2006 16:14:38 GMT -5
The Beacon Pollwww.beaconnewspaper.com/poll/index.cfm?event=displayPollResults&poll_question_id=18473Would you use the proposed Metrorail line to FIU?78% Yes - I'll save myselt the time and money. 12% No - It wouldn't be and cheaper or faster for me. 10% No - Eww, the Metrorail is dirty. This The Beacon poll is not scientific and reflects the opinions of only those Internet users who have chosen to participate. The results cannot be assumed to represent the opinions of Internet users in general, nor the public as a whole.The poll is closed now but looking at the responses, most students would use the system if built.
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Post by Steve on Nov 6, 2006 20:36:48 GMT -5
The problem with that poll is it is way too general. The station if it ends at the southwest corner of Tamiami Park, on top of greek housing by the bus terminal, or anywhere within 1 mile of FIU is considered "Going to FIU". The debate isn't wether or not to send the line to FIU. Everyone agrees that it is necessary that this line stop somewhere near FIU.
The real question is what we have been asking from day 1..."Where will the station for FIU be?" to many, the only way Metrorail would serve FIU is to put the station on 107th avenue. As far as the county is concerned though, as long as it is within a 1 mile radius, it is going to FIU. This means it could go down 122nd avenue or 102nd avenue and still meet that criteria.
It would be really interesting to see the results if the polled the students as to where they think the station should be given all the information presented in an unbiased manner.
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Post by TrueBlue on Nov 8, 2006 21:28:19 GMT -5
Here's our opportunity to have a say in what Sweethingyer will be with a Metrorail. I attended the meeting tonight in Sweethingyer, as i suspected it was less about transportation and more about the collegetown that the city officials and FIU would like to produce. Basically, the vision would be to rezone the area framed by 107th and 109th and Flagler and 8th street to be a greener more pedestrian friendly collegetown. Along 8th street would be a hotel and dormitories (I would assume university affiliated housing, not actual FIU residence halls). A corridor along fourth street to connect the city hall to the school, business buildings, and finally shops, boutiques, and restaurants along flagler. The event naturally became very heated. Many citizens see it as a way for the city to finally begin to thrive. Although some did not like the idea of displacing citzens and thought the government was trying to take their houses and raise taxes. Since all the plans would be built by private investors there would be no need for the city to raise taxes. Although the visions are simply that, and the people will be allowed to vote for the rezoning when it comes time, a few citizens mistook the visions as definite plans. There will be many more meetings, especially since the presentation was not even finished at the close of the meeting. If anyone could, I'd urge you to attend. Also, the mayor said the metrorail WILL NOT run down 107th, he is against it, the city commissioners are against it, and two of the county commissioners are against it.
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