fiu12
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Post by fiu12 on Nov 26, 2007 22:21:45 GMT -5
I hate to break it to you guys but I am hispanic!
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Post by FIUFan on Nov 27, 2007 12:17:44 GMT -5
'rulz, once again, I bring up what you said " In MY OPINION Being Hispanic did help Cristobal", and my history comment was that RS was our first choice. Rumors were rampant that it was going to be RS if UCG didn't sign him. RS could have easily used his son as an excuse to keep the wolves off of him (that's a point that can't be proved). Guess what though, UCG signed RS; coincedence? I don't think so. However, going back to the original inference that MC getting hired because he is Hispanic is preposterous and to even plant that seed deserves a firm rebuttal. I see that you have backed off this comment in your subsequent post which is good. But every time you bring this ethnic crap up you can expect this same type of response from me. Other than that I have nothing against you though we have had our difference in the past.
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Post by alt7787 on Nov 28, 2007 2:15:12 GMT -5
Mario cristobal didnt get hired because he was hispanic. He got hired because he was cuban. Pete garcia was hired because he was cuban. there were tons of other better qualified people for both jobs. Anyone that says otherwise is ignoring the facts. One big difference between UCG and FIU is that the administrations are not dominated by cubans. That is why their AD is white and their head football coach is black. This is the truth. I am not playing racial politics here, I am simply stating the facts.
it is difficult to say if these two hires were the right ones. only time will tell. I did not agree with both hires last year, but again only time will tell if they were good hires.
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Post by alt7787 on Nov 28, 2007 2:18:29 GMT -5
FIU needs more heterogeneity. I dont see enough black students or asian students. This is one reason why FIU isnt taken seriously.
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Post by FIUFan on Nov 28, 2007 10:22:48 GMT -5
Hey alt, not to be argumentative but have you ever been to the Biscayne Bay Campus? And as far as Asians are concerned, take a look around, there aren't that many of them around here either, this isn't California. So your comment makes you hard to 'take seriously'.
And as far as your comment about UCG being so diverse, they've been the white elitist school around here since the 20's; check out their % of blacks to the overall student body.
I know it's tough for some to deal with the fact that Miami-Dade is majority Hispanic; but thank goodness for FIU.
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Post by yippee on Nov 28, 2007 13:08:19 GMT -5
1. What does this have to do with women's basketball, since it is in "Cindy's Court" 2. Who cares? PG is here, and if he leaves so what. We will just have the next guy in line take his place. That's how things work in Miami and everywhere. I think yall take the ethnicity card a little to seriously sometimes. Who cares who is white, Cuban, Hispanic, or Black. There are people in every race and color that can get the job done. Everyone just needs to sit back, watch our new stadium be built (it is looking amazing by the way) and forget about UM for awhile.
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Post by alt7787 on Nov 28, 2007 20:08:07 GMT -5
Ohhh yea, Ive been to Biscayne Bay. LOL. I dont think I ever stated that the UCG was diverse. It is probably less diverse than FIU is. Everytime I unfortunately have to go there all I see are rich white people. The only black people on campus are probably the athletes. The point was that our current AD and head football coach got their jobs because of their race. The point was that getting a job because you are a certain race is not right. MC was not on anyones list of head coaching jobs. The guy never held a position as a coordinator and did a mediocre job as an O-line coach. When he was hired I was extremely dissapointed, not because of his race, but because of how unqualified he was.
This seems to be the story in all of miami though. People are elected to public office not because of their qualifications (or lack of), but because of their race. People are appointed to positions because of their race. I would never vote for someone just because he or she is cuban or hispanic. I would vote for them based on their qualifications. I am hispanic and I would never vote for any of the current elected officials in Miami. I would gladly vote in a black man or a white guy because chances are they are more qualified than the guy from Havana who went to Miami Dade.
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Post by FIUFanatic on Nov 28, 2007 21:53:19 GMT -5
1. What does this have to do with women's basketball, since it is in "Cindy's Court" 2. Who cares? PG is here, and if he leaves so what. We will just have the next guy in line take his place. That's how things work in Miami and everywhere. I think yall take the ethnicity card a little to seriously sometimes. Who cares who is white, Cuban, Hispanic, or Black. There are people in every race and color that can get the job done. Everyone just needs to sit back, watch our new stadium be built (it is looking amazing by the way) and forget about UM for awhile. Great post....
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Post by yippee on Nov 28, 2007 22:05:15 GMT -5
thank you.
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Post by FIUFan on Nov 29, 2007 9:39:32 GMT -5
'alt, what about my comment about us trying to hire RS? You have to admit that it forced UCG's hand. That should satisfy your diversity concerns. Beyond, that you have to remember that FIU can't go out and hire a marquee coach for millions of dollars. Sure MC has not been a head coach before but everyone says that he's one heckuva recruiter. He was also an interior lineman on National Championship teams so he knows what it takes to get the job done in the trenches. And sure, he's local and knows the area, that's a Big + as far as I'm concerned. I really think you need to take a deeper look at the variables/circumstances regarding his hire and reassess your 'ethnicity based' point of view of this hire. You'll see that his hire works for us on many different levels. And don't even get me started on the PG hire , suffice it to say that I think we are lucky to have him.
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fiu12
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Post by fiu12 on Nov 29, 2007 17:05:29 GMT -5
fiu was never gonna hire Randy Shannon. Pete and Randy dont really get along because Butch and Randy didnt really get along. Alt, your opinion is dead on I used the wrong word in hispanic, i should have said cuban.
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jar86
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Post by jar86 on Nov 29, 2007 18:23:01 GMT -5
This message was not only racist but derogatory towards a lot of people. It has been deleted. Please leave this at the door. I tried to stay away from these types of threads, but as long as they are factual and non-derogatory then I let them be in their appropriate place. FIU Panther Fan
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Post by alt7787 on Nov 29, 2007 19:25:11 GMT -5
It is unfortunate Mr. Jar86's opinions had to be censored. I am curious to know what he/ she wrote. Could it have been that bad? or could it be that once again people in Miami are way too sensitive and censor what they dont like to hear?
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jar86
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Post by jar86 on Nov 29, 2007 19:31:24 GMT -5
That's fine. It's a post that should have been censored. I was trying to point how ridiculas the racial post are becoming on this site. It's a cancer that should be stopped. I hope he/she starts censoring all racial post, whether it be against Cubans, Hispanics, blacks, whites...
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Post by alt7787 on Nov 29, 2007 19:37:42 GMT -5
I disagree. Noone here has spoken negatively or in a derogatory manner about any race. All of us involved in this topic have made factual points and stated our opinions. I personally added my opinion to this post in an attempt to point out that Mario Cristobal and Pete Garcia more than likely were hired because of their race, not because of their qualifications as a head coach or Athletics Director should be hired. This is not so much true for PG because he does have experience as an administrator and top level personnel. MC is a different story.
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