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Post by hardw0od on Feb 8, 2008 0:20:21 GMT -5
When the smoke cleared old Howard must've crapped his Depends when he saw that his reruiting class was ranked 114th in the nation AFTER they won the Sun Belt and winning the NOB. FAU's best player was a player they recruited last year ,but greyshirted (Xavier Stinson). The other top player in their class "Pattee" should have been a Golden Panther. The truth of the matter is that no one wants to play in Boca (a retirement city) when they could play in Miami. Good luck to them trying to repeat as Sun Belt champs. www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/palmbeach/faublog
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Post by kevinkagy on Feb 8, 2008 0:30:52 GMT -5
That's kind of sad for them, I doubt it's that bad though. You'd think that with the bowl game, they would have attracted some decent players. But maybe you are right, there's always that stigma of it being "FAU" and it being in Boca of all places. Everyone there is 80+, with nothing but a mall to go to, I don't blame them. I'd pick Miami over any city any day. Regardless, best of luck to them, and we'll see how things end up for 2008.
GO PANTHERS!
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Post by The OC Panther on Feb 8, 2008 1:24:10 GMT -5
YEah I noticed in that ESPN SBC listing I posted on the other thread that wow that class was by far the worst in the whole conference. only 2 barely ranked players. Schnelly is a hard working dude so he will always have my respect but that situation in FAU is just no sustainable.. Its all Schnelly's sheer will making it happen and will all due respect at his age he can't do that for too long. HE is the main and only thing they have going for them. Boring location, huge snow bird community that is not buying tickets, no main campus or campus life, no local corporations to support the stadium or buy suites and no cute Miami honeys to seal the deal
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Post by collegestudent on Feb 8, 2008 1:24:52 GMT -5
That's kind of sad for them, I doubt it's that bad though. You'd think that with the bowl game, they would have attracted some decent players. But maybe you are right, there's always that stigma of it being "FAU" and it being in Boca of all places. Everyone there is 80+, with nothing but a mall to go to, I don't blame them. I'd pick Miami over any city any day. Regardless, best of luck to them, and we'll see how things end up for 2008. GO PANTHERS! Wow, what jerks. The average age in Boca is 43. It is a gorgeous city. What stigma? I think that is in your own mind. The way things end up in 2008 is FAU wins the SBC again and of course, beats FIU. jealous haters!!! Go back to your trailer park.
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Post by The OC Panther on Feb 8, 2008 1:31:45 GMT -5
Dag that was quick, It didn't take long for one of those life-long-learners from FAU to show up and troll on out board Guess the mall was closed.
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Post by hardw0od on Feb 8, 2008 1:53:55 GMT -5
That's kind of sad for them, I doubt it's that bad though. You'd think that with the bowl game, they would have attracted some decent players. But maybe you are right, there's always that stigma of it being "FAU" and it being in Boca of all places. Everyone there is 80+, with nothing but a mall to go to, I don't blame them. I'd pick Miami over any city any day. Regardless, best of luck to them, and we'll see how things end up for 2008. GO PANTHERS! Wow, what jerks. The average age in Boca is 43. It is a gorgeous city. What stigma? I think that is in your own mind. The way things end up in 2008 is FAU wins the SBC again and of course, beats FIU. jealous haters!!! Go back to your trailer park. LOL! What's funny is that you went on Wikipedia to find out the average age of the residents of Boca, either that or you just pulled a number out of thin air. Now , when you say "Trailer Park," do you mean our state-of-the-art stadium? Just wondering.... Now go back to the retirement home and tell Schnelly we still got love for him.
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Post by yippee on Feb 8, 2008 3:24:59 GMT -5
isn't most of their team returning? I can't remember
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Post by FIUPantherFan on Feb 8, 2008 6:19:42 GMT -5
Yep, they have a very young team and should be good for years to come. Also, HS is the best coach in the SBC and gets the most out of his players regardless of their ratings. I think we've had better recruiting classes consistently, which is why we have NFL calliber players, but they have had the better teams (which is what college football is all about). I would agree though that their recruting class "on paper" is not as good as I expected. Go F I U!
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Post by fauowns on Feb 8, 2008 10:39:37 GMT -5
But maybe you are right, there's always that stigma of it being "FAU" and it being in Boca of all places. Everyone there is 80+, with nothing but a mall to go to, I don't blame them. I'd pick Miami over any city any day. Lol... Stigma? If anything I would think FIU has that what was it... 1-23 stigma. Heard that your "great" class might not be so good when you find out how many qualify. Aparently Cristobal had to take quite a bit of chances on players who may not pan out. Good luck next year maybe that stadium will help you get another win. Quit taking jabs at us when you guys haven't even had a winning season, Schnelly knows what he is doing. We lose very few players this year and will be in contention for the conference title again next year. P.S. If you guys are still so stuck on stars Rusty Smith had none and this season had 3688yds, 32 TDs, 9 INT.
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Post by FIUPantherFan on Feb 8, 2008 11:39:26 GMT -5
Who did you "hear" this from? Apparantly you must have some "inside" knowledge on the grades and scores of our recruits (which is not public information). I love when people from other schools come in here talking out of their @$$ like they know more about OUR school and OUR recruits as if they're experts. No one is more interested in FIU than we are, and I know that no one from fau is more knowledgeable about FIU than we are. Our recruiting class is good and they were being recruited by multiple institutions (including fau in some cases) all of which where also willing to bring these guys in even though, according to the voices you are hearing, they might not qualify.
Your own coach acknowledged that changes have to be made in their recruiting process in order to get a higher quality of players than the ones you got this year, if you consider it a jab then that's your perception, maybe you should talk to HS and Marcus Nelson and stop pretending to know anything about FIU.
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Post by jc0000 on Feb 8, 2008 13:16:17 GMT -5
Is this thread a joke? No disrespect to FIU, because I support the program and hope they do well in the future. But FIU's "heralded" class is ranked 89, FAU is 101 (wow). FIU has 4 "3 star" recuits", FAU has 2. Do you honestly believe those extra 2 players with their one extra star are going to get FIU over the hump? FIU has a lot of catching up to do as far as being mentioned in the same breath as FAU or being able to compete with FAU on the same playing field. I understand the envy of having FAU play and win a bowl game while FIU has won what, one game in two years? But come on already.
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Post by fauowns on Feb 8, 2008 13:18:28 GMT -5
Who did you "hear" this from? Apparantly you must have some "inside" knowledge on the grades and scores of our recruits (which is not public information). I love when people from other schools come in here talking out of their @$$ like they know more about OUR school and OUR recruits as if they're experts. No one is more interested in FIU than we are, and I know that no one from fau is more knowledgeable about FIU than we are. Our recruiting class is good and they were being recruited by multiple institutions (including fau in some cases) all of which where also willing to bring these guys in even though, according to the voices you are hearing, they might not qualify. Your own coach acknowledged that changes have to be made in their recruiting process in order to get a higher quality of players than the ones you got this year, if you consider it a jab then that's your perception, maybe you should talk to HS and Marcus Nelson and stop pretending to know anything about FIU. It is nothing I am making up. I've heard that some recruiting analysts saying the group that fiu has been going after is the more academically challenged. I've read the story yes schnellenberger is acknowledging that he may need to start changing his recruiting methods. But times have changed. For one I don't think he is ever going to resort of offering 100's of players like cristobal did. There is no way cristobal had met or watched all the film on everyone he offered. Schnelly likes to make sure every player he recruits is who will work in our system. Maybe he does need to change this so he can get a higer ranking but I don't think he thinks much about being 114th. The guy is a football genius he isn't gonna listen to what some pasty faced recruiting analyst is ranking his kids. Do you really think they think much about any programs other than the major ones when they are ranking kids? Look at our overall programs FIU all-time 16-51 and FAU 1 game away from .500 at 41-42, FAU will be more than fine.
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Post by FIUPantherFan on Feb 8, 2008 13:41:48 GMT -5
No one is arguing that FIU is better than fau, I think every single FIU fan knows that's not the case. Nobody on this thread said any differently, the topic of the thread is about expecting fau to have a better class than what they did, guess what, apparantly HS expected to do better because as a result he will be making some changes (that's all the thread is about). If you wanted to take it as some sort of insult for pointing out what YOUR OWN COACH said, then run with it. No one even compared FIU's class to fau before JC, the thread is all about your Coach making changes to his recruiting strategy in order to get better (obviously that means that he wasn't satisifed with the current results). By the way if you "READ" all of the above FIU fans quotes, you will see what great respect that we all have for HS and the job he's done at fau. Even acknowledging the fact that changes must be made in recruiting is a sign of a man who isn't stuck in his way and will change in order to get the right results (which he has been getting).
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Post by fauowns on Feb 8, 2008 14:06:49 GMT -5
No one is arguing that FIU is better than fau, I think every single FIU fan knows that's not the case. Nobody on this thread said any differently, the topic of the thread is about expecting fau to have a better class than what they did, guess what, apparantly HS expected to do better because as a result he will be making some changes (that's all the thread is about). If you wanted to take it as some sort of insult for pointing out what YOUR OWN COACH said, then run with it. No one even compared FIU's class to fau before JC, the thread is all about your Coach making changes to his recruiting strategy in order to get better (obviously that means that he wasn't satisifed with the current results). By the way if you "READ" all of the above FIU fans quotes, you will see what great respect that we all have for HS and the job he's done at fau. Even acknowledging the fact that changes must be made in recruiting is a sign of a man who isn't stuck in his way and will change in order to get the right results (which he has been getting). Wow this is getting retarded. If you don't see any of the cracks your fans are taking at us then you are blind. Aparently "stigma of fau" is a compliment. As well as "all boca residents are 80+", "boring location", no main campus (needless to say boca is the main campus), "[schnelly] is the main and only thing they have going for them" (again we won the SBC, NO Bowl and have winning seasons unlike our neighbor to the south), and that anyone who is an fau fan is a "lifelong-learner" (yeah we have a lifelong learning program but maybe it is a good idea to be nice to people with money, maybe you guys should look into it to bolster your endowment that is half of ours).
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Post by FIUFanatic on Feb 8, 2008 14:46:48 GMT -5
Wow...you should see the constant comparisons and insinuations at their board about FIU...over and over and over....Someone thinks they know more about the stadium, financing, and recruits than our administrators, financial people, and us fans...some of them with some 'connections'.... Even a good number of their fans were disappointed with their recruiting, going as far as, as expected, comparing to FIU's class, and mentioning how FIU did better.....etc, etc....However, the point is moot. I know many of the recruits FAU got are very good, and that HS will do, as usual a great job of showing what a team and coaching does to players....I think both programs did good. FIU surprisingly, did better than most outside the program expected, beating some BCS teams for recruits that weren't even rated 3 stars, but were recruited by the likes of West Virginia, Miami, Ole Miss, and Rutgers until the very end. That is good news. Now, chaging the tunes a bit...it's refreshing to see how Scout.com ranks the conferences, and now little ole Sun Belt Conference ranks ahead of the MAC and the WAC in recruiting. Again, numbers by themselves don't mean much, but the fact that this very young conference...once laughed and ridiculed at...is now being ranked ahead of other, much older, conferences, is a feat by itself. floridainternational.scout.com/a.z?s=446&p=9&c=14&view=2&yr=2008
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