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Post by mjgpanthers1 on Jan 12, 2008 16:22:37 GMT -5
When ever I search out what the outsiders think of our university it is always the same. That FIU is mostly a joke local school that you only go to if you can not get into anything else. When, if ever, will FIU actually be respected? When will our name actually expand past the SW 8th street zone? talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-illinois-urbana-champaign/444571-your-opinion-please-thanks.html^ 8th post down read post from "dvm258" read where he mentions FIU....Then look at the post right below that from "Faresx25x" look how he mentions FIU in his post "last thing I want is to end up in fiu." We can talk all we want how great FIU is but we talk this way because we go or went to FIU but the outsiders, the potential students to be, have a totally different opinion of FIU.
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Post by FIUFanatic on Jan 12, 2008 17:08:56 GMT -5
Well, that's one example of many, I'm sure. But, there are countless other examples, I'm sure, of other people with totally different views about FIU. I agree that the great academic and professional achievements FIU has done in its short history has not been passed on as well as it should to the outside community, but little by little, it is changing.
Of course UF is #1 on most Florida kids' list. That shouldn't surprise anyone. However, the facts are FIU's incoming class GPA and SAT's are improving greatly, and we just had 16 valedictorians from AROUND the state to choose FIU as their college. I can show what they say...not on anonymous boards.....about how great FIU is.
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Post by mjgpanthers1 on Jan 12, 2008 18:13:03 GMT -5
I know of the 16 valedictorians and you know about the 16 valedictorians but who outside of our little community actually know? I love FIU but I think FIU gets an "F" in regards to advertising the achievements of this university and receives an "F" in regards to moving FIU up the list of schools students want to come to in the state of Florida.
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Post by fiu12 on Jan 12, 2008 18:18:57 GMT -5
after madique and company departs
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Post by FIUFanatic on Jan 12, 2008 18:44:59 GMT -5
I know of the 16 valedictorians and you know about the 16 valedictorians but who outside of our little community actually know? I love FIU but I think FIU gets an "F" in regards to advertising the achievements of this university and receives an "F" in regards to moving FIU up the list of schools students want to come to in the state of Florida. Actually, I thought they did a pretty good job of advertising with full page ads on The Miami Herald, and several inserts. I just received a letter from FIU asking for donations, with a very nicely-put brochure precisely boosting this fact of those Valedictorians. Still a point can be made that those Valedictorians thought enough of FIU to come study here. That was essentially my point. However, Rome wasn't built on one day. I sincerely think it will take way much more than just advertising like crazy our achievements to make a significant dent right away in some people's perspectives. We need a bigger on campus residence presence, and....I sincerely believe it will take a winning attitude in FIU Sports for it to become "vogue" for many students for the perception to change. Maidique has done amazing things over his tenure here as he has steered the transformantion of FIU into what it is. ...that is just a dumb comment.
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Post by FIUPantherFan on Jan 12, 2008 19:32:22 GMT -5
Hater...oh well...the results and growth speak for themselves, no need to defend Maidique when the results are evident.
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Post by gpantera on Jan 12, 2008 20:01:18 GMT -5
When ever I search out what the outsiders think of our university it is always the same. That FIU is mostly a joke local school that you only go to if you can not get into anything else. When, if ever, will FIU actually be respected? When will our name actually expand past the SW 8th street zone? talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-illinois-urbana-champaign/444571-your-opinion-please-thanks.html^ 8th post down read post from "dvm258" read where he mentions FIU....Then look at the post right below that from "Faresx25x" look how he mentions FIU in his post "last thing I want is to end up in fiu." We can talk all we want how great FIU is but we talk this way because we go or went to FIU but the outsiders, the potential students to be, have a totally different opinion of FIU. Mjgpanthers1, Snap out of it and grow a backbone! Do you look to others to tell you what to wear, where to live, how to talk, walk, you get the point, right? In grown up world, mature folks make rational decisions based on critical analysis and independent thinking, not based on what a teenager on a blog says. I would put even less stock in that post when you consider that the poster identified him or herself as a Floridian. If he/she is a South Floridian, then clearly he/she is a front-runner. After all, South Florida is the capital of Bandwagon USA. Listen, FIU points of pride are plenty. There’s not a school ANYWHERE the age of FIU who has accomplished the same things FIU has accomplished in such a short time. You want advertising? Then advertise! As an advertising professional, I know there’s nothing more powerful in marketing than word-of-mouth advertising. Perhaps if you’d set the record straight with FIU facts every time someone challenged FIU, perceptions would change. You want perceptions to change? Then start with yourself. Read up on FIU’s history and accomplishments and don’t be afraid to speak up for FIU. Maybe if you challenge yourself to be an agent of change in terms of the perceptions you allow others to impose on you about FIU, then those perception would change. As for me, I’m a Proud Panther ready to tell anyone, anywhere, anytime the fabulous FIU story. The next time you encounter an FIU hater, send them our way. This board is full of proud panthers that aren’t shy about setting the record straight. As always, go G-Panthers!
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Post by gpantera on Jan 12, 2008 20:25:31 GMT -5
after madique and company departs fiu12 a.k.a. The MC, PG, MM Hater, learn your FIU history. Madiques accomplishments at FIU are historical. That's a fact. No other president in American history has seen a law school, medical school and D-1 footall program created during their tenure. You continue to smear his record with your negative bias based on your athletic experience and completely dismiss his over two decades of historical public service to FIU. Maidique is rich. He doesn't need FIU for money. His led FIU out of service. With the kind of support you show FIU, there's no wonder we struggle to fulfill our potential at FIU. But don't worry, FIU will continue to grow and shine despite the ongoing hate. I'll let you have the last word...gpantera
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Post by kevinkagy on Jan 12, 2008 22:29:52 GMT -5
I know of the 16 valedictorians and you know about the 16 valedictorians but who outside of our little community actually know? I love FIU but I think FIU gets an "F" in regards to advertising the achievements of this university and receives an "F" in regards to moving FIU up the list of schools students want to come to in the state of Florida. Actually, FIU did a lot of advertising for both the football team and those valedictorians with full-page ads in the Miami Herald and the Sun-Sentinel every week on those 16 valedictorians. They started the "FIU attracts more valedictorians from South Florida than any other university in the country" campaign as well as signs around campus. It, along with the other top rankings, were advertised heavily. FIU has accomplished a lot in its 43 years, a feat no other university in the U.S. can claim. We've accomplished a lot and although some may not know of all our great accomplishments, they're there. I know a lot of people outside of FIU respect the Business School and I've heard it referred to as "one of the country's best" (because it is) numerous times. I also know people from all the way in West Palm Beach that drive to FIU for the Law School, which also has a lot of people talking. Plus, we have our new medical school as well as numerous research partnerships. We have a lot to be proud about. Of course, to really get the message out in a bang, winning for the football team would do wonders. As crazy as it sounds, a football team's performance is very important when it comes to word-of-mouth advertising. And like others have said, if you don't like what people are saying about FIU, correct them with the facts. GO PANTHERS!
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Post by mjgpanthers1 on Jan 12, 2008 23:52:38 GMT -5
"gpantera" dumb comments by you. "In grown up world, mature folks make rational decisions based on critical analysis and independent thinking, not based on what a teenager on a blog says."
Smart guy, if I didn't make a rational decision and based what school I am actually going to attend based on a blog than I wouldn't have chosen FIU....I went to FIU and graduated so I picked FIU despite what I read from these bloggers. You have no idea how much research I did before I picked this university.
I know kids like you like to ignore the negative comments and pretend everything is great. I unlike you do not want to settle for this university to simply be a last resort for local kids to commute to. It seems like you sir are the one afraid to stand up and make a stand and state that the perception of this university needs to be changed.
Next time know what you are talking about before you post comments like you did. I know the history inside and out and I saw the writing on the wall of where this school is going in the future. That is why I chose this university over other ones despite things that I knew going in I wouldn't like about the university. I read the bad comments with the good comments unlike you which just ignore the bad and concentrate only on the positive.
And in regard to everyone else mentioning the nice ADs they did in the Miami Herald and Sun Sentinel. Those Ad's I know about but this university needs to reach their arms farther than the 305 or 954 area code to receive respect nationally. They hardly if at all receive any respect locally and they have to work even harder to receive some respect nationally.
"kevinkagy" as unfortunate it is you are correct in that potential students do use athletics as a means of measuring the success of a university. With sports teams winning, students hear more about a university and attend that school with a false sense that the university is great in academics just because they are good at sports.
The more a sports team wins the more name recognition is accomplished and the more students want to attend this university because they score more touchdowns than other schools and that must mean "they are a better school". It is sad but true.
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Post by FIUPantherFan on Jan 13, 2008 10:11:30 GMT -5
The fact is, this schools acceptance rate is such that whoever wrote that comment probably didn't even get in. Whether they know it or not, it is very competitive to get into FIU. Go PANTHERS!
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Post by gpantera on Jan 13, 2008 11:28:56 GMT -5
mjgpanthers1,
Kudos to you for starting to piece together a backbone. Now if we can only get you to exhibit the same level of confidence when talking to non-panthers.
As for my comments, you may characterize them as dumb, but are they accurate? If you don’t mind, let’s use fact to set the record straight.
Fact: you created this blog posting titled, “WHEN WILL FIU BE MORE THAN A JOKE UNIVERSITY?” Then you go on to say that you chose FIU after endless research. Reconcile that. So you wanted to go to a school you call a joke? Please explain.
Fact: you wrote, “I unlike you do not want to settle for this university to simply be a last resort for local kids to commute to. It seems like you sir are the one afraid to stand up and make a stand and state that the perception of this university needs to be changed.”
What is it in my record of two degrees from FIU, lifetime membership of the FIU Alumni Association, my closet full of panther gear that I sport on an almost daily basis and a host of other pro-FIU activity I engage in are you pointing to when you make the charge that I want FIU to be a “last resort for kids to commute to” – please respond to my specific question and resist the urge to mudsling and mis-characterization – facts only please.
In terms of the local advertisements speaking to our local community, I consider that a good start. Prior to that, FIU belly-achers like you would complain about lack of coverage in the local papers. Friend, we’re not going to grace the cover of Sports Illustrated and lead the national news overnight. Let’s take firm, smart and aggressive steps in brand building and I think that starting locally, where most of the FIU constituency resides, is a practical strategy. Again, my challenge to you is to stop whining and start doing. Write a letter to the FIU director of marketing then follow that with a check demonstrating your financial support for more advertising if it means that much to you.
And finally, everyone on this blog understands the correlation between athletic success and collegiate brand building. However, it’s not the only factor. Brandies, University of Chicago, Carnegie Mellon, Emory, Babson College, Case Western Reserve and Rice University are just a few schools that are members of the prestigious Association of American Universities (only 60 members) – none are national powers in D-1 football. So although I want to see FIU athletics succeed in the worst way, I’m just as proud when our business, law, hospitality, accounting, nursing and other programs secure national recognition.
If these facts bother you and you find yourself unable to answer for your inconsistent bantering, then don’t respond in detail. But at least help us understand what your point is when you create a blog insulting FIU by implying it’s a joke? This isn’t a UM blog. What sort of reaction did you expect? This is FIU country on this board and we’re all proud members of the FIU Family. If you don’t want to be opposed vehemently by your fellow panthers, then don’t create blogs calling us a joke. FIU is not a joke to me and to most on this board.
Happy Sunday…gpantera
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Post by mjgpanthers1 on Jan 13, 2008 13:48:11 GMT -5
"gpantera" thanks for the response and to answer your questions are really easy. Maybe you should put your two degrees to better use and re-read what I said and not rework my words to the way you want it. First of all did I call FIU a joke or did I state that others think FIU is a joke? Hmmmm? You wrote this: "Fact: you created this blog posting titled, “WHEN WILL FIU BE MORE THAN A JOKE UNIVERSITY?” Then you go on to say that you chose FIU after endless research. Reconcile that. So you wanted to go to a school you call a joke? Please explain." Please explain? Well let me state this "When will FIU be known more than a joke university" you know what that is? Well maybe I should explain since I am not sure if I trust your intelligent level. notice the word "known" in my actual title that you left out of the quote you said I wrote as my title? Now if you take out the word known in my actual title it says I think FIU is a joke and now look at my actual title again with the known. So, you reworked my title to make it look like "I" thought FIU is a joke but my actual title states otherwise. Did I loose you there buddy? Here is my first sentence of my first post "When ever I search out what the outsiders think of our university it is always the same." Again, the outsiders of the FIU community think of FIU is a joke not me. I researched before I attended FIU and searched out it is not a joke that is why I attended. But others that are not as persistent as I am and not as into researching as I am would think of FIU as a joke just from what others state. So without the advertising stating otherwise they would think FIU is a joke So, your "fact" as you put it is actually false. "What is it in my record of two degrees from FIU, lifetime membership of the FIU Alumni Association, my closet full of panther gear that I sport on an almost daily basis and a host of other pro-FIU activity I engage in are you pointing to when you make the charge that I want FIU to be a “last resort for kids to commute to” " So, you have two degrees from FIU, lifetime membership of the FIU Alumni Association and your closet if full of FIU panther gear. My question is what does that have to do with anything? That just shows you are a fan of FIU and you have two degrees to show it. I am also a lifetime member of the FIU alumni association and my closet is full of FIU panther gear but I have an actual backbone to state I am not happy with being known as a school that is a last resort I want more from my university. Why haven't I wrote to FIU stating about more outside advertisement. I have numerous times as I also write to FIU about other topics in addition to the advertisements as I again would like different things changed to make FIU better in the long run. Sticking up for FIU academically, I do that all the time I don't just say I do on this board but push comes to shove I coward away like you. I actually take a stand in real life as I am on this board. Again read carefully before you make false statements or better yet I could give you a call and read what I wrote reaaaallllly sloooooowwwwww and maybe then you would understand. Have a nice day buddy As always Gooooo GPanthers P.S. If you want to continue with this bantering please proceed as I am really good at it and I actually enjoy doing it (but remember state actual facts and not fiction that you state as facts)
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Post by gpantera on Jan 13, 2008 16:55:59 GMT -5
mjpanthers1,
The word "known" does little to bolster your argument.
Unlike you, I don't enjoy this banter. I suspect the others reading this aren't interested in this banter either.
The fact remains that you seek approval of FIU from outsiders and you seem to only run into those who don't hold FIU in high regard.
If you want a list of panther and non-panthers who do hold FIU in high regard, please call me. Maybe after you survey them, you'll feel better about yourself and your view of FIU.
In the end, I don't care about those who hate on FIU. I care about those who support FIU's cause. If you prefer spending your time in the negative end of the pool, that's your prerogative.
Please don't respond publicly as most folks here don't care about your opinion nor mines (especially yours). You want some more, respond to me privately. I've posted this same message to your private message feature. If you engage me privately, I'll give you my phone number and we can take this conversation offline.
gpantera
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Post by gpantera on Jan 13, 2008 17:00:26 GMT -5
"I coward away like you"
please explain?
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