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Post by 2006 Peer Advisor on Mar 13, 2007 12:05:21 GMT -5
As time passes and FIU continues to grow incredibly, space is little by little becoming a problem for the future developments that FIU will be a part of. Projects such as the new School of Medicine, possible hospital, new football stadium parking garages, future housing dorms, practice fields, and on-campus mini markets (primarily for on-campus students) will need a place for construction. Even though there are plans already for future dorms (near the parking lot by the new business building) and a Medical School (located at the corner of 107th ave & 8th street), the locations are not quite that ideal. During my Peer Advising work shops, I learned about these future plans and about plans to expand to Sweethingyer and parts of the fair grounds. Do you think we necessarily need the fair? even though it brings great revenue, don't you think this space (if used wisely by FIU) will be more beneficial to the county than the fair? What if Sweethingyer was used as some sort of off-campus housing? Let us know what you think about future expansion
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Post by Steve on Mar 14, 2007 0:22:41 GMT -5
ok, I'll bite... I think that if we were to construct off campus housing that was intended for FIU students and only open to FIU students, it would help aid the spirit of the City of Sweethingyer Transit Greenway Project that can be found on the Miami Dade MPO Website and is linked in several threads on this board. Several projects could easily be built along the 109th avenue corridor. There would be property aquisition issues as well as several concerns by the City of Sweethingyer.
As for expanding into Tamiami Park, I think this is the eventual solution. As the campus continues to grow, we move closer and closer to the park's property. The new stadium is the first of several projects that put FIU right up against that border. As a music student, I spend much of my time in a building that is already on property aquired by the fair. This time of year becomes increasingly more and more difficult because of the inconveniences and difficulties the fair causes. We are forced to park in overcrowded parking garages or across campus and carry sometimes multiple instruments across campus. Additionally, the secureness of the building is always less during this time because we end up with people not associated with FIU walking through the building to sneak into the fair.
I think somewhere down the line we will need to expand the campus beyond the current borders. That time is very far in the future though since we do have the luxury of 3 large chunks of land to work with. The plans for the engineering campus as well as the biscayne bay campus would have to be fullfilled before we could move forward with actually planning the new aquisitions.
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Post by FIUFan on Mar 14, 2007 8:08:36 GMT -5
Simple solution:
PUT THE FAIR AT TROPICAL PARK !
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Post by Steve on Mar 14, 2007 9:31:11 GMT -5
Not so simple. The fair demands their own type of infrastructure. For this reason they have been converting Tamiami Park more and more since I can remember. Personally I think that they should find a nice chunk of land off 137th and 8th street and put it there or possibly on the current Hialeah Race Track site since there is a desire to preserve it and also lots of parking.
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Post by fiurulez on Mar 14, 2007 15:04:17 GMT -5
Not so simple. The fair demands their own type of infrastructure. For this reason they have been converting Tamiami Park more and more since I can remember. Personally I think that they should find a nice chunk of land off 137th and 8th street and put it there or possibly on the current Hialeah Race Track site since there is a desire to preserve it and also lots of parking. Hialeah sounds like a great idea. It would be easier to get the fairgrounds than it would be to get Tamiami land. Besides, the park should stay and the Fair should go. |
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Post by FIUFanatic on Mar 14, 2007 19:37:47 GMT -5
Yep. I think the only, "surest" way is to take over the fairgrounds when/if the fair contract runs out with the County there. Tamiami Park...I really, really, doubt it...they just keep building new fields and stuff, plus there is a lot f sentiment of residents needing a recreational park there....
Regardless...I've said this many, many times here and in other forums...FIU's biggest challenge now is space/growth in physical buildings.
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Post by FIUBlue82 on Mar 14, 2007 21:35:13 GMT -5
The reason the Wertheim Performing Arts Center and the Gold and Blue Parking Garages are around, is in part due to the Fair's financial contributions (in the millions). I didn't like the traffic when I was an undergrad and I won't like it when I go by campus this year.
I know FIU plans on taking over some part of Tamiami in the future. However, from what I know, the Fair isn't going anywhere. Not as long as it keeps donating money to FIU.
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Post by Steve on Mar 14, 2007 21:45:07 GMT -5
The Wertheim Conservatory did not recieve funds from the fair. The Wertheim Performing Arts Center did and in fact sits on Fair property officially.
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Post by FIUBlue82 on Mar 14, 2007 22:50:43 GMT -5
You are 100% correct. My bad. The Performing Arts Center and the garages had funding from the Fair. Thanks, Steve.
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Post by Real Estate Developer on Mar 15, 2007 11:37:44 GMT -5
The FAIR:
1. Move the Fair to (1) the OB site after it is knocked down or (2) land West of 821 and north of 41. (Turnpike and Tamiami Trail). Federal development funding might be available for both projects.
2. With the money the county will receive for the land, which FIU would certainly have to pay, the county will have plenty of money to build whatever infrastructure that will be needed on undeveloped country land and have plenty of money left over.
HOUSING
1. Some solutions from my alma mata: They partially solved their housing problem by purchasing a couple of condo complexes a few miles from campus. They also purchased 2-3 small apartment buildings a few streets over from campus. They have just completed a Lakeview sized project and will shortly begin construction on additional residences. We can do most of these also.
2. Off campus residence halls should be built in locations that would not require students to drive to UP.
Sweethingyer - all of the residences should be located within 1 block of 107th Ave so that students could use buses that travel between the Engineering Campus and UP.
One (1) or Two (2) Lakeview size housing / condo complexes should be built in Sweethingyer, preferably by private developers.
3. Undeveloped land on Tamiami Trail, West of SW 137TH Ave would be good location for a 2-3 Lakeview sized residence complexes with a shopping area that would generate revenue for the developer (or FIU).
4. The Apartment Complex or Condos on the property Northeast of SW 107th Ave and SW 20th Street should be bought and turned into student housing.
MEDICAL CENTER
1. Buy the Kendall Medical Center, 11750 40th St SW , Miami, FL 33175 . It is more economical to purchase an existing facility than to start and build one from scratch.
2. Buy all of the commercial property on the East Side of SW 107TH Ave, South of Tamiami Trail and redevelope it for the Hospital Complex and Housing and a secured parking parking garage for student parking.
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Post by Dade Resident on Mar 15, 2007 12:58:24 GMT -5
FIU should try to sell some of the fair grounds like they did with the land along Biscane Bay.
Or just start building on the fair grounds. FIU tried selling land it doesn't own, why not build on land it doesn't own.
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Post by fiurulez on Mar 16, 2007 15:59:24 GMT -5
I contacted a lawyer today about ousting the Fair from Tamiami. I am using this angle: I live in the surrounding area and the fair is a nuisance. I asked specifically about starting a petition. He told me not to bother. Since the fair has been in the area for four decades, people should know what they are getting into when they move into the area. Sorry.
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Post by Peer Advisor 06 on Mar 16, 2007 23:18:36 GMT -5
[FIU should try to sell some of the fair grounds like they did with the land along Biscane Bay]
FIU doesnt own the land. It's owned by the county.
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Post by yippee on Mar 18, 2007 2:18:33 GMT -5
The fair sucks.
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Post by kevin on Mar 18, 2007 23:38:18 GMT -5
I think FIU should built the horizontal parking garage next to the stadium to create a physical barrier with the park and then acquire the land at the fair grounds. We really need the land at FIU, and any where we can get it is good. Also, as much as Lakeview is awesome, we need more on-campus housing or off-campus housing. Affiliated housing with the apartments on 107th would be amazing and do wonders to campus life. I know all future residence halls are to be on the northwest side of campus by the Graduate Business School buildings but I wish it could only get done now. And one last thing, anyone know when the Molecular Biology, Social Sciences and the last 3 fraternity mansions are expected to start construction? It seems like forever, these have been "ready for construction" but nothing has happened!   |
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