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Post by FIUPantherFan on Oct 3, 2007 11:47:08 GMT -5
All,
It appears that if I move from the pro board format which most of you think is outdated, that we will lose all prior post history, new usernames would have to be created, etc. I am willing to go with this, and I have even identified and created a new board using fiugoldenpanthers.com as the primary address. However, I want to make sure the loss of all that information would not bother MOST of you. Thanks.
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Post by Mike on Oct 3, 2007 13:17:28 GMT -5
All, It appears that if I move from the pro board format which most of you think is outdated, that we will lose all prior post history, new user names would have to be created, etc. I am willing to go with this, and I have even identified and created a new board using fiugoldenpanthers.com as the primary address. However, I want to make sure the loss of all that information would not bother MOST of you. Thanks. I don't recall anyone complaining about the board format. The complaint, which has been made thousands of times, is in the names you have chosen for the directories. - 1'st comment. The loss of the historical data, which records the development of the athletic and football program, is more important than any change.
That you are so willing to throw it away is something I don't understand.
The loss of user names is less of an issue for me, or probably most other people. The loss of the names would be a minor inconvenience to the search feature.
- 2'nd comment. The present design is nicer than most of the boards on the Internet today.
A graphical change isn't necessary or required.
With the evolution of technology there will be many changes and hopefully improvements in the future. If you want to make graphical changes to the front end to meet the competition, they can be made using any format.
- 3'rd comment. There is only one change required and that is to change the names you have chosen. That has been posted on so many times they can't be counted. It is also a change you can make in minutes.
- 1'st comment again. The loss of the historical data, which records the development of the athletic and football program, is more important than any improvement.
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Post by FIUPantherFan on Oct 3, 2007 14:21:12 GMT -5
1. If I didn't care about the loss of data, I wouldn't have asked anyone's opinion on the matter and would have just done it. The point of the question was to determine everyone's preference not to get responses such as yours which make assumptions that are baseless and confrontational in nature. I simply asked whether people would be willing to move to a more integrated board if it required the loss of messages that have been accumulated in this site. I understand why some people wouldn't (such as myself), that's why the question was asked.
2. A lot of people have made comments about an update in design of the banner, removal of Lance Preston banner, color scheme, etc. They think that having a more updated, sleeker look would be good. I could go for that, no problem. However, the problem goes back to #1.
3. There are no "required" changes, you don't pay for my services and I'm not selling them. I'm doing this out of complete devotion to FIU as a Fan and more importantly as an Alumni. The day you decide to donate cash to this site, is the day you can make demands. I appreciate people's suggestions and their concerns that's why I spent several hours last night after returning from my trip to research and design something that's graphically better. Sometimes (most times) I take people's suggestions, other times, I do not.
Can we focus on the thrust of the question, which is what your tolerance for the loss of information from this board would be. Thanks.
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Post by pikedanny on Oct 3, 2007 15:22:00 GMT -5
So basically what you're saying, PantherFan, is that you don't care what we think... you're keeping the names?? Because it seems like you're saying ITS MY BOARD SO I CAN NAME IT WHAT I WANT!
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Post by FIUPantherFan on Oct 3, 2007 15:59:49 GMT -5
Nope, that's not what I'm saying. The new (beta board) is structured differently. I simply don't like the implication that I'm "required" to do anthing, it was a very clear comment. Again, if you want to read into things, that is your own interpretation. For the record, most people and I agree on about 90% of the way that things are formatted and again, sometimes (most times) I take people's suggestions, that doesn't mean that I will ALWAYS do it (I might not be capable of doing it or I might not think something is right). There are people who have suggested banning certain posters and such things that have not gone through because I didn't think it was right (sometimes we disagree).
What do you think about the point of the question, would you prefer to move to a new board provider if it means losing the posting history?
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Post by Mike on Oct 3, 2007 16:41:58 GMT -5
So basically what you're saying, PantherFan, is that you don't care what we think... you're keeping the names?? Because it seems like you're saying ITS MY BOARD SO I CAN NAME IT WHAT I WANT! Pikedanny has expressed your actions. If you don't like what he said than take some action to demonstrate otherwise. Your response to my post is interesting. Mine wasn't confrontational. I complimented the board and have liked it from the start. My post wasa courtesy I extended to you which you again took the wrong way. I could have ignored your post or told you it doesn't matter if you lose the previous posts. I think that would be a terrible loss. If you don't make changes neither I nor the FIU fans will lose out. Nature abhors a vacuum. There will be other boards to replace this board. You will be the loser not me or the FIU fans. I repeated a comment made by regular posters for months that you have ignored. Perhaps you can change the word "required" to the word "requested" or "suggested". But then it really doesn't matter as you have chosen to ignore your fans/customers suggestions and taken them personally if they didn't agree with you. I Know that I am not the only one who has almost completely stopped posting on your board. The idea that someone would actually suggest banning a FIU, FAU, or UCG fan from this board is interesting and surprising. If they are a true FIU fan they will just post elsewhere. I wish you the best of luck and hope you keep this board up and running. The only "requirement" is to continue to improve. If you don't you will lose your board and FIU will be the loser. |
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Post by SouthPaw on Oct 3, 2007 21:04:51 GMT -5
FIUPantherFan,
Losing the history wouldn't bother me a bit. Can you post the link to the new beta board you've created?
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Post by yippee on Oct 3, 2007 23:50:14 GMT -5
I can tell you honestly that since Ive been here the ONLY time I went looking for something was when I was bored at work and wanted to read the UM bored to stay entertained.
trash 'em.
FIUPanther,
I will be happy with whatever you do. I just want a place where I can talk about FIU sports, no matter what it looks like. But an improved site is a plus!! Can't wait to see the new one.
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Post by FIUPantherFan on Oct 4, 2007 6:49:29 GMT -5
Thanks for answering the question guys, Southpaw here's the beta address ( fiugoldenpanthers.com/forum). It is a direct subdirectory of fiugoldenpanthers.com which I think is better than pro-boards. I am trying to see if there are different templates (graphics) that I can use. I still haven't figured out how to remove the phpbb logo (or if I can). I'm looking into a lot of things so far to try to make it more FIU specific and less generic. If someone has used phpbb before, please let me know if I can contact you for help on how to format the site. Also, everybody else, please give me more feedback on if I should continue with the project given the fact that we would would lose all message history here. As it stands we have 2 of you who have voted to change, 1 who has reading comprehension issues, and 1 who ignored the question all together. It would be a shame if more of you didn't chime in and we make a change that most people don't like. |
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Post by FIUFanatic on Oct 4, 2007 8:58:06 GMT -5
I prefer to keep the history, but not a biggie, really. Count me in with the majority.
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Post by kevinkagy on Oct 4, 2007 10:15:42 GMT -5
A vote for a change, the new board is a good start we just need to make it as you said "less generic and more FIU". Good job though, we're getting somewhere!
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Post by FIUFan on Oct 4, 2007 10:26:08 GMT -5
In my opinion, you now have over 600 registered users, if you have to start from the beginning, I would think it will take a couple of years to get back to that number. If everyone transfers over and there is a relatively seamless link between this board and the new one (as far as the URL is concerned) then I would say go for it if the new board is 'that much better'.
Can you give us a list of new features and user preferences that would make a move prudent. I mean will it be easier to find for new users, will old users who have been away find it, will losing the continuity and goodwill of this board be made up by the new one?
Just questions that you may not have 100% certainty on but may want to address to us and tell us how you feel about them.
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Post by Mike on Oct 4, 2007 11:36:02 GMT -5
phpBB is a very nice hosting company. Nice clean titles, most people will be pleased. I am familiar with the hosting company. You made a good choice.
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Post by elsito99 on Oct 4, 2007 12:20:02 GMT -5
Hi,
Been reading the board for a while, finally registered after last Saturday.
I think the new board looks very clean and nice. Most of my FIU friends which also read the board don't like the layout, which makes less people want to join and add to the forum.
I would vote for the new hosting, looks very good.
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Post by FIUPantherFan on Oct 4, 2007 12:31:16 GMT -5
FIU Fan, those are all very good questions and certainly some that I've asked myself. As it relates to the 600 users, you are certainly right that we would lose that count, however keep in mind that some are double users and other are fans of some of our opponents. I would say there is probably anywhere between 200-300 UNIQUE FIU fans and it would take quite a while to get there. As far as a link, I would definately post a link on this site that would re-direct people to the new board and this board will remain up (but locked to new users) for quite a while until we are fully transitioned over. I'm not to certain about new feautures, but one of the benefits is that the URL is much more intuitive (www.fiugoldenpanthers.com/forum) to the main site. However, I don't know a lot of the bells and whistles of the new board. Check out the beta link that i posted in response to Southpaw and tell me what you think.
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