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Post by jdsippin on Apr 13, 2008 21:54:59 GMT -5
Baseball just lost another series and is off to its worst starts that I can remember...maybe ever...and now let’s go down the list...football was horrible, men's basketball not much better, women's basketball pretty bad, women's soccer not good, softball stinks, volleyball was good and not sure about cross county/track and swimming if that really matters...Men's soccer was the only team to represent FIU in a conference championship and they had a horrible year as well(go figure)..and it seems that women's tennis is pretty good again..
So what am I missing here? any similarities to the past 4 or 5 years... well anyway, FIU athletics savior Garcia is well into his second season at the helm and I don't see a single change...in fact, it actually seems worse now that baseball is on its way to last place in the league...so tell me, what the $%$$ has Pete Garcia done so far? hmmmmm …plus he has been given more resources to succeed than any previous AD.... If you want FIU to be the Giant that everyone keeps referring to there has to be some level of accountability… and that falls on the AD's shoulders...I'm not saying he has to go because it’s still relatively early in his FIU career..(even though some DI schools have fired ADs after 1 season)…..but for %$% sake did anyone expect this? Basically every team sucks.. Bottom line!!...He fired all the coaches and the teams aren’t any better... so what the heck has changed?
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Post by baseballgirl1 on Apr 17, 2008 20:23:13 GMT -5
You couldn't say it any better.. Nothing has gotten better but what do I know I just get jumped for everything I say negative on here. FIU FANS need to see that hiring UM's trash has done nothing for us. PG is out for revenge on UM and look where that has gotten us. UM doesn't even want to play us anymore and this was one of the biggest games for us. Heck last year at a game he was slapping hands with the UM team. That should of said something then. This is the worst baseball season ever? I am sure someone will have some excuse for all of this they always seem to come up with some poor excuse on who is coachng what and why PG is soooo GREAT. Give me a break.. They all suck this year. So to answer your question NOTHING AS CHANGED except for UM not wanting to play us and we suck even more.
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Post by MaXx on Apr 18, 2008 6:21:07 GMT -5
Most people have no problem with UCG not wanting to play us. They are out of our league right now and all we do is attract their fans to the games.
Also, it's not the fact that you say something negative, it's the fact that ALL you do is state negative things. You sound like a very bitter person to me.
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Post by FIUBlue82 on Apr 18, 2008 9:06:48 GMT -5
You're right. Lets bring back Rick Mello, Danny, Don and everyone else that was let go. They did all have a hand in making FIU's athletic program the best in the nation before they were let go by the university. Hey, other than Rick - who is working for the Sun Belt - Danny and Don don't seem to be doing much these days since they weren't hired by any other college programs. Give them a call!
And yes, Garcia is only out for revenge against UM. Weren't there rumors that he was the next AD in waiting at Miami? That's right, that was false too just like the rumor that Men's soccer was being gutted after this year.
Seriously, give Garcia and everyone else more than 1.5 years before judging them. Garcia inherited academic and financial mismanagement, Don Strock's wonderful violations and fantastic handling of the UM fight as well as Danny Price's fantastic streak of 7 seasons without a postseason appearance.
It was time for a change and with that change came Garcia. As long as he is the AD, I will support him. When he leaves and is replaced, I will support that person. It seems like too many people in the FIU community are hoping that we lose just to prove a point that Garcia and all the people he hired are bad apples. We're all, hopefully, FIU fans. Lets hope for the best no matter who is in charge.
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Post by MaXx on Apr 18, 2008 10:37:39 GMT -5
Great post Blue, sometimes you wonder if people are cheering on the team/school rather than the individuals.
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Post by jdsippin on Apr 18, 2008 11:08:05 GMT -5
Nobody said bring them back....u just think u would have seen some kind of turn around...not see things get worse!!... Many fans had their reservations about Garcia to begin with and would like to see some results from all the hype he and Madique were preaching when he got to FIU…at least something! How do you think the donors and boosters feel when they are told “FIU is going to the next level”, “Garcia is going to turn things around” and so on…and you have the same unsatisfactory results from the previous years…remember, Miami is a sports town with a culture fixated on winning…and the boosters and fans are part of this culture…so the expectations are high and will always be…what happens if you have these results 2 or 3 years from now? What then?
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Post by 2006PA on Apr 18, 2008 12:29:53 GMT -5
We have only experienced one season from the new coaches... Before we start hating on Garcia and what he is capable of, we need to atleast give it another season for baseball & football to show improvement. If nothing changes during the the next football & baseball season, then i think we honesly do have a problem in the athletics department. But untill then, lets give the guy a break! You can't expect him to pull of some Houdini magic trick and pull out a winning program from a sack full of unskilled players...
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Post by FIUBlue82 on Apr 18, 2008 12:41:42 GMT -5
jdsippin, I want to first thank you for a polite reply. Some posters have a tendency to get upset and/or emotional in their posts (I have been guilty of it in the past) and offend others. So I appreciate the way you replied without attacking me or anyone else for not sharing your views.
As far as what donors and boosters feel, I can speak for myself as a donor and booster and say that I expected this. You can't go from being Division I-A's worst program into a middle of the pack one over 1.5 years. It just doesn't happen in collegiate athletics nor the business world.
I will reserve judgement on Pete, Mario, Turtle and all the other personnel moves (there were other hirings and firings besides head coaches) made by Pete until at least two years from now. As others have said, judging them all at this time is not practical. This is especially true when you are Mario Cristobal who inherited a winless team, with several seniors graduating, filled with academic issues and NCAA violations. Turtle has yet to get through his FIRST SEASON. No one should be judging his performance especially with what he too inherited.
For now, I encourage everyone on here to support the program in the good times and the bad (we are obviously in the bad at the moment). If you don't like Pete and/or others, just remember that ultimately, if they turn this program around, it will be something we can ALL be proud of.
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Post by FIUFanatic on Apr 18, 2008 14:54:56 GMT -5
jdsippin, I want to first thank you for a polite reply. Some posters have a tendency to get upset and/or emotional in their posts (I have been guilty of it in the past) and offend others. So I appreciate the way you replied without attacking me or anyone else for not sharing your views. As far as what donors and boosters feel, I can speak for myself as a donor and booster and say that I expected this. You can't go from being Division I-A's worst program into a middle of the pack one over 1.5 years. It just doesn't happen in collegiate athletics nor the business world. I will reserve judgement on Pete, Mario, Turtle and all the other personnel moves (there were other hirings and firings besides head coaches) made by Pete until at least two years from now. As others have said, judging them all at this time is not practical. This is especially true when you are Mario Cristobal who inherited a winless team, with several seniors graduating, filled with academic issues and NCAA violations. Turtle has yet to get through his FIRST SEASON. No one should be judging his performance especially with what he too inherited. For now, I encourage everyone on here to support the program in the good times and the bad (we are obviously in the bad at the moment). If you don't like Pete and/or others, just remember that ultimately, if they turn this program around, it will be something we can ALL be proud of. Is this me talking...just told better than I could? Good posts here Blue2.....Let's just give some PRUDENT time before reaching some conclusions..Of course, if this thing doesn't turn around in say, 2 years, then all of these concerns will be proven right. But at least, let's wait out a bit more to see results...
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Post by kevinlucero13 on Apr 23, 2008 11:46:14 GMT -5
Hola FIU Fans, It has been awhile since I last replied; my bad. I noticed that Turtle recruited the #15 ranked high school prospect in the nation according to top draft prospects. For so many years going back before my days FIU has struggled getting top In-state talent.Despite having UM 8 miles away FIU has held its own. FIU has many times defeated UM and Florida and Florida State I had 2 victories myself in one season. Beating UM is always great don't get me wrong but I think we all need to stop putting UM on a pedestal. With this recruit hopefully it will mark the beginning of a long list of top prospects being drawn into FIU and beating UM will stop being such a big deal and more like just another FIU victory. Turtle is known for his recruiting talents and it will serve FIU well. Look at the other programs he has been apart of and did they benefit from his ability to draw talent. As a revision from my last response; "good things come to those who wait". Be patient as I have suggested; it will happen for FIU as it has for ASU and LSU. Two out of three are in place to recruit top talent. One is a great looking stadium with great facilities. Two is a coach with a solid reputation and a talent for recruiting players. Three talent which it seems has begun with the #15 recruit. Meantime stay faithful and just watch FIU baseball become something great .
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Post by gpantera on Apr 23, 2008 19:02:35 GMT -5
Hey Kevin Lucero,
I'm not sure if your post was a compliment wrapped up in an insult or an insult wrapped within a compliment. To write, "not much is good about FIU," is brushing FIU in a negative light in one broad stroke. Are you speaking of FIU athletics or all things FIU?
Either way, I praise your baseball success during your time at FIU. As always, go G-panthers!
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Post by FIUPantherFan on Apr 23, 2008 21:11:42 GMT -5
I think it's a statement of fact, there isn't really anything good athletics wise in the 3 major sports. But I agree with the general feeling that we are improving and will keep getting better. Go F I U!
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Post by roaryismyhomeboy on Apr 23, 2008 21:50:17 GMT -5
HOWS TONIGHTS 6-3 win over #1 ranked Miami for a start?
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Post by FIUFanatic on Apr 23, 2008 21:56:27 GMT -5
HOWS TONIGHTS 6-3 win over #1 ranked Miami for a start? Hmmmmm....yep. In this terrible season we have a shining ray of hope....of hope of things to come.....Good job FIU!! BTW, welcome to our, and yours too, board. I remember the time you used to pitch for FIU....your comments and posts are welcomed....
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