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Post by alt7787 on Feb 10, 2008 16:29:14 GMT -5
For everyone that thinks FIU is on the rise and on the brink of greatness, please the newspaper article I have provided a link to. The online version of the article does not include a table in which it states that out of all the universities in Florida, FIU came in dead last in 2007 in terms of fundraising bringing in a pathetic $17 million dollars and ranked 277th out of all U.S. universities. If Madique can only bring in $17 million dollars to this university with a Law School and approximately 38,000 students, and over 100,000 alumni, then it is apparent that he is not doing a good job. Even FAU raised more than FIU did. FAU raised $32 million dollars in 2007. Everyone is jumping for joy and celebrating because FIU got PRELIMINARY accreditation for its medical school, but how the hell are we going to get a medical school rolling if FIU can only raise $17 million dollars a year. There is no real funding for this school as we speak. I have no idea how it got preliminary accreditation. www.miamiherald.com/news/miami_dade/story/412700.html |
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Post by gpantera on Feb 10, 2008 17:09:44 GMT -5
alt7787,
what's your angle? are you a UM alum?
Do you come on this board to support the cause or find any opportunity to bring negativity?
Ok, so you have negative stats. I can come up with countless positive regarding FIU's accolades, unrivaled for a school as young as FIU. So now what? Where would you want this conversation to net out?
Do you prefer we all scrap any and all encouragement for our school and burn our blue and gold gear?
For the record, FIU is one of the youngest schools in the country. as i'm sure you know, to fundraise successfully, you need alums with money. since our alumni base is young, it has not yet matured to the level of institutions that have been around 2, 3 and 4 times as long as FIU. as our base matures and moves into 2, 3 and 4 generations of success, the money will follow. until then, we must press on a positively as we can.
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Post by alt7787 on Feb 10, 2008 18:36:20 GMT -5
I am a current FIU student. A junior to be exact. The purpose of my post was to open people's eyes about the current FIU president. I have been convinced for a while that Madique's time as president should have ended many years ago. Like I have stated before it is great that he has brought many things to FIU such as D-I football, a law school and possibly a medical school. However, none of these three "accomplishments" have materialized into anything. I understand that mostly everything is young, but nothing seems to be changing. FIU loves the status quo and Madique is the king of status quo.
We need someone that can finish the job and finish it right. The fact that FIU was only able to raise $17 million dollars last year speaks wonders about the president. FIU is a gigantic university with over 35,000 students and over 100,000 alumni, there is no reason why only $17 million dollars should have been collected.
I hate UM, but what they have been able to do is amazing. They dont receive contributions only from alumni, they receieve a LOT of contributions from companies, private donors from all over the country and numerous grants. FIU gets money from a company run by two idiots that have run it into bankruptcy (Pharmed).
As for our current alumni base, the reason they dont donate to FIU is because FIU does not give them a reason to do so. We dont have a succesful sports program (any sport) to lure people back to the school and we dont have any tradition. There is no FIU community. This is again placed on Madique. My neighbors are FIU alumni and having spoken to them many times they dont even know who the FIU president is. Madique does not reach out to them. Not just my neighbors in Palmetto Bay, but all over. Madique has such a stronghold over this university that resembles a dictatorship, it doesnt seem like he'll ever be out.
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Post by alt7787 on Feb 10, 2008 18:44:36 GMT -5
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Post by FIUFanatic on Feb 10, 2008 19:16:32 GMT -5
You are set in your ideas and your thoughts of getting rid of Maidique and MC, and, while you fail to convince me, it is to be respected. Think about what you just wrote. New law school, new college of medicine, new football program, new D-1 program, new stadium....and your most important point of your post is that FIU and Maidique loves status quo.....status quo. It seems odd that just after such an apparent successful week in FIU's history you bring in one negative point in order to sustain your theory. I do agree that those fundraising numbers appear to be a major drawback on the University, and thus on Maidique's leadership, since the buck stops there. It is indeed a major negative, and something we need to work on. However, you fail to include the many other positive news and facts, putting that fact on an island by itself. alt...there is no perfection in ANY leader at any institution, and you take the good with the bad, unfortunately that is the real world out there. You only want the goods to outnumber (and be more important) than the bads. I think your point...minus the getting rid of Maidique notion.... is well taken . Your personal views seem to be a bit skewed and even when you identify people that donate to FIU, you take the opportunity to bash them, because you reached a conclusion on their character, thus, it would seem...it doesn't count. You can't have it both ways. I know you are very upset we only won one game last year, and we know you find that totally unacceptable and proof that MC is not the right coach. I know you had much higher aspirations against Penn State, but I think you must temper your expectations a bit. Personally, I disagree with you in your disdain for President Maidique, and your thoughts of getting rid of him now. I think he has done...and is doing a fantastic job. That is my point of view, and you haven't changed my mind on it. The medical school, contrary to your belief, is "rolling" as per the latest news we have provided for you....just this past week. I don't know what gives you the qualifcations, or knowledge to state unequivocably that you have no idea how the Medical College got preliminary accreditation. Forgive me a bit, but I highly doubt you have more knowledge, experience, and qualifications than the national Liason Committe on Medical Eduction (LCME). Furthermore, I would highly doubt the aforementioned insitution (LCME) and/or its members, would put their expertise, names, and reputations on thin ice, just for issuing such accreditations to both FIU and UCF's Medical Schools. Don't you agree? They have their guidelines, procedures, policies, and national standards that must be met by each institution that aspires to become a Med School. For you to insinuate otherwise is just mind boggling. LCME SiteGive it time, go to games, graduate from FIU, and when you do...please donate a lot of money so that you can put your money where your mouth is. Hopefully by then, FIU would have higher amounts of donations from successful grads like most of us will. |
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Post by alt7787 on Feb 10, 2008 19:30:00 GMT -5
Im sure the LCME are not incompetant and they surely know a lot more than I do when it comes to Medical school accreditation. however, we have seen this before. Our football program was given the go to play in DI in about 3 years after its inception. How this happened is also beyond me? We played as provisional DI after 3 years and for the last two seasons as full DI programs. You can see where this has gotten us in terms of W-L (sad).
I fear that this medical school may go down the same path.
I do plan on giving a lot of money to FIU, but I hope that when the time comes I will be negotiating with someone other than Madique.
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Post by FIUFanatic on Feb 10, 2008 19:42:51 GMT -5
Those are two very different things. The fact is that the LCME, which is a totally neutral institution with standards and NATIONAL medical reputation to guard, thought enough to grant it. Somehow, you still seem to think you have some information they don't, and make a comparison to a football program that did not have to go through a rigorous independent national institution to get it accredited. Again...they are two very different things. You go from one extreme to the other, which, quite frankly, have no bearing or resemblace whatsoever one to another.
Your conclusion, now based on how a football decision (that at the time had to be made, by the way) made by the then AD and FIU administrators is linked to this Medical School accreditation by an independent national institution that precisely exists for those reasons, is far-fetched, highly speculative, and fact-less. It is based just on your hunch, it seems.
It is evident to me you care about FIU a lot. Just as most of us here in this board. You just have a more impatient approach than some of us do. You should have seen where FIU was...and..with all pitfalls it has...where FIU is now....My friend, it's amazing...just amazing what has been done.
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Post by esteban688 on Feb 10, 2008 23:54:54 GMT -5
Trust me my mom went to FIU, and she does not even recognize it now! Every alumni i have spoken to a amazed at just how much FIU has grown. At like someone said, it is this that will start more funding from alumni. I think the main and qualifying fact is NO OTHER UNIVERSITY has done what ours has in such little time. Our university is just a toddler compared to our counterparts, but we just grow faster. Are we doing so bad? Compare apples with apples. FIU for its age is doing as well or better that any university.
Don't worry much about FIU... Miami will take care of it largest university. Same with football and many other aspects, FIU has been very busy in the work of improvement and publicity, it might look like a mess now but when the dust clears and everything falls into place and things become more rutine... then you will see FIU's greatness.
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Post by jar86 on Feb 11, 2008 7:00:12 GMT -5
Alt: I have FIU's yearbook from 1984, if you like, I can send it to you. Maybe then, you will see how much FIU has grown under the leadership of our current president.
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Post by kevinkagy on Feb 11, 2008 13:35:19 GMT -5
Im sure the LCME are not incompetant and they surely know a lot more than I do when it comes to Medical school accreditation. however, we have seen this before. Our football program was given the go to play in DI in about 3 years after its inception. How this happened is also beyond me? We played as provisional DI after 3 years and for the last two seasons as full DI programs. You can see where this has gotten us in terms of W-L (sad). I fear that this medical school may go down the same path. I do plan on giving a lot of money to FIU, but I hope that when the time comes I will be negotiating with someone other than Madique. What about the Law School? The Law School is pretty young too (founded in 2000) and it's already a Tier 3 law school (U.S. News)! That's really great, and it's continuing to get better. I understand where you're coming from and it does suck that we didn't get more fundraising this year, but I don't think it's fair to jump the gun and just say Maidique is doing a poor job, he needs to go. I think he's done a great job, he's done a lot for the university, brought a lot of big programs to FIU, and raised our rankings and national standings. Think of it this way, Maidique's goals were to have a "TOP PUBLIC RESEARCH UNIVERSITY", the last step was the Medical School. That means, that we have it all, now all we have to do is improve and focus on what we have. Meaning, everything will continue to get better, because the attention is now on what we already have and not on what we need to get. GO FIU! |
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Post by kevinkagy on Feb 11, 2008 13:40:32 GMT -5
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Post by pumaconcolorcoryi on Feb 12, 2008 21:00:27 GMT -5
I think what FIU has done in such a short period of time is absolutely amazing (law school, medical school, etc.). Howevever, to truly consolidate all these incredible gains, the university does need to ramp up its fundraising. If college football is all about recruiting, recruiting, recruiting, then big-time academics is all about fund-raising, fund-raising, fund-raising.
Unfortunately, this state's spending on their college system is anemic. It also doesn't help that tuition is so ridiculously low. My kid's pre-K costs more. Tuition needs to quadruple at least. As we move forward we'll be relying less and less on the state.
Obviously, Maidique has spent the last few years fighting to get these programs. His new focus has to completely focus on FUNDRAISING. He's got to build up his fundraising infrastructure like he did with alumni relations years ago. Before there was nothing in terms of alumni relations. Now, he's got a program that is active at least and getting stronger.
To a certain extent, we're like where UM was about 20 years ago when Tad Foote took over. They had their programs but not much in terms of endowment. Shalala's done a great job raising cash.
The goal is to get better by getting more selective and raising as much cash as possible. They did a good job with the law school. I know the schools in the state have taken notice.
Let's hope we do the same with the medical school as well as the entire campus.
Oh, and one last thing. It's time to fire Sergio Rouco.
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Post by Steve on Feb 12, 2008 21:55:55 GMT -5
There is another side to the fundraising issue. When you consider that there was a major reorganization of the colleges (specifically the College of Arts and Sciences had a huge chunk sent over to Architecture and The Arts as well as a couple other consolidations of programs into other colleges), there was a great deal of administrative shifts as a result of these changes as well as just general administrative change-outs due to retirement. When you also add in things like creation of another unit within the university overall such as the college fo medicine, it begins to become apparent that there are some major changes taking place in the upper echelon of the university community. With such drastic changes taking place, it is very understandable that fundraising has suffered a bit.
This being said, it is no excuse for low fundraising totals. Fundraising should be taking place at every level of the University community. From applying for grants to appealing for donations, each member of the University community plays an integral part in the fundraising and thus the future of the university as a whole. It is easy to point the finger at the president of the university and say it is all his fault and look to the administration and blame them. While they are not without blame, to say it is only them is a misstatement.
I think it will be interesting to see what happens and how growth occurrs at FIU in this next year or two. As new administrators and deans get more situated and aquanted with the intricacies of their positions, perhaps the amount of fundraising taking place will increase. If the number remain the same or only increase slightly, then we can point and start gathering our pitchforks and torches as a community. Until then, it is best to understand what is happening in the university community and perhaps even ask ourselves how we can help the university.
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Post by FIUBlue82 on Feb 13, 2008 9:39:20 GMT -5
FIU gets money from a company run by two idiots that have run it into bankruptcy (Pharmed). I guess you missed these other "idiots" that have donated significant dollars to fund the expansion of the College of Business. Major donors to the Building Complex Fund include: -- R. Kirk Landon, former president and CEO of American Banker's Insurance (now Assurant Group), hence the Landon Undergraduate School of Business within the College of Business Administration -- Alvah H. Chapman, Jr. and Betty Chapman, former CEO and chairman, Knight Ridder, Miami, hence the Chapman Graduate School of Business within the College of Business Administration -- Ocean Bank -- Office Depot, Inc. -- Armando Codina and Margarita Codina -- Bank of America -- Regions Bank -- Wachovia Bank, N.A. -- Assurant Group -- Morrison, Brown, Argiz & Farra, LLP -- Preferred Care Partners, Inc. -- William E. Graham/The Graham Companies -- IKON Office Solutions, Inc. -- Kaufman, Rossin & Company, P.A. -- PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP -- Augusto L. Vidaurreta and Mary J. Cannan -- KPMG LLP -- Walgreens Company -- Egon Zehnder International, Inc. FIU will be fine with fundraising. It's certainly an area we need to focus on, but again, if you compare where FIU is at this point in its history - remembering that we only opened our doors in 1972 - I think we are in great shape. |
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Post by The OC Panther on Feb 13, 2008 10:49:50 GMT -5
To set the record straight here.
University fundraising is not a yearly "season"
Although a school's fundraisers are always working, those numbers are skewed because every 3 to 5 years a school runs of capital campaing that should bring 100's of millions for it's endowment and other large projects.
We last had one a couple of years ago which is when the Wolfsonian Museum was donated to us. That one finished in 2001 and raised $200 million for FIU. You dan have smaller drives going on like the one above for the B School.
These numbers are skewed by which school has a major drive starting, ending or dormant this year.
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